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Subject: Islamic warriors and innocent civilians?
trustedsourceofinfo    1/31/2006 12:53:26 AM
So the esteemed warrior from Allah's very own Islamic force Al Qaeda narrowly escaped death and gloats over the fact in a video aired! Here's what really caught my eye in his gibberish nonsense and obviously enuf reason to make headlines in their leading daily.. Check out the news article and of course you'll can hear these Islamic bastards on numerous websites! Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri And once more... Innocent people killed in US strike: Zawahri This is what these bastards from Islamic republic make headlines to spur more jihad...... Since when did the Al Qaeda genteel ever bother abt civilians... Oh-they were Muslims...even if these low lives had no lives-they were muslims...SO all muslims are innocent civilians.... 911 victims are not innocent-2 year old hindu kids shot in the head were not innocent..The great professor from IIT,DElhi who imparted knowledge to Muslims and Hindus alike were not innocent.... When will you fukcing Islamic bastards stop...tell me?? And as long as you keep revering that perp called Mohammed this will continue..believe me..... wake up moderate Muslims.....wake up you idiots!! before the civilised world resorts to unthinkable action..... Let me quote "
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kane    RE:Islamic warriors and innocent civilians?   1/31/2006 3:22:41 AM
calm down we do not support them!!!! Turkey is facing terror for 30 years and it is not a thing that we should support(some modern powers are doing this but this is another topic) But they have reasons to do terror(i don't mean they have to!!) -Israel's attack on Palestine -USA's lies to invade iraq -USA's new plans to invade more muslim countries(invading is too much in here but they have no other choice) DON'T FORGET THAT SOME OF THOSE HEADLINES ARE NOT LIES Many civilians died because of USA's attacks. +Innocent people's lives were ruined(the reason they join to terrorists) And none of these are because of ALLAH.If there is a god(ALLAH)they will be punished when they're dead!!! They think they're doing the right thing because their EDUCATION level is very low just like in southeast Turkey(PKK)
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trustedsourceofinfo    RE:Islamic warriors and innocent civilians?   2/1/2006 12:40:00 AM
I'll take one issue at a time Kane! You cited USA's invasion of iraq as a reason for terror! WHy dont u explain me 911 since it was prior to the invasion of Iraq?
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Pars    RE:Islamic warriors and innocent civilians?   2/1/2006 8:33:28 PM
I wonder when this eligious discrimination will stop. Does a communist terrorist group makes all communists in the world terrorists? Does a Hindu assassin makes all Hindus assassin? Get real. There are terrorists who tries to justify their terror by religion. And there are ordinary people who has nothing to do with them. By the way; even Americans could not make a bomb that only kills the bad guys. Americans did kill the civilians in Iraq by collateral damage which could not be avoided in any war. Would it be possible that an Iraqian civilian could join the terrorists after his relatives killed by American collateral damge. Yes, that is possible. Desire for vengeance can make people do stubid and horrible things. Is this true for anyone. No. Not everyone is so blinded by hatred. My questions are: Why some people have a need to hate? How can a man hate someone, he does not even know? What is the true nature of religious hatred and racism?
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trustedsourceofinfo    RE:Islamic warriors and innocent civilians?   2/3/2006 3:02:20 AM
"I wonder when this eligious discrimination will stop." -->Very took words from my mouth! Now lets begin with Saudi Arabia-the land of Mohammad.The land of mecca and median...The land where the purest form of Islam/Sharia is practiced.. Here's a little example about BLOOD MONEY verify it from any RSA embassy.... Saudi Arabia In Saudi Arabia, when a person has been killed or caused to die by another, the prescribed blood money rates are as follows: * 100,000 riyals if the victim is a Muslim man * 50,000 riyals if a Muslim woman * 50,000 riyals if a Christian man * 25,000 riyals if a Christian woman * 6,666 riyals if a Hindu man * 3,333 riyals if a Hindu woman. Now,charity begins at home!The purest form of Sharia clearly discriminates against a Muslim man and a hindu woman...Where is that uneducated punk Kane who keeps talking abt the Koran saying man=woman etc etc..... How many examples do you want from the Koran clearly distinguishing between the believer and the disbeliever...tell me.....? The problem in your own backyard dude... Let me summarize: 1.The Koran 2.islam 3.reverence for a mad perp called Mohammed Clean up your act and you'll realise this world was afar better place.. Another statement thats comes from Kane and you often.... the terrorists were uneducated people... The hijackers in 911 were FLYING you'll understand this...flying planes... Sheikh,the guy who killed pearl,was an MBA from LSE.... Let me talk abt the educated Imams who have read the Koran-These idiots are the biggest perpetrators of terrorism!They're supposed to be educated according to you having read the Koran...isnt it?? How many examples have you heard of relatives of 911 victims killing Muslims? "How can a man hate someone, he does not even know?" --->Wow...very nice statement!You call yourself an educated and rational man---I dont think you have the faintest clue abt anything in life.... Have you ever read any single verse of the Koran...Do you know the life of Mohammed 10 yrs prior to hijra and after? I dont think so.... I havent even got to the part quoting the Koran-your so called source of truth... tell me how does the KORAN have verse after verse calling for Jihad against disbelievers when Mohammed didnt even know the men?I'm just quoting what u said...Tell do you call this book as the word of God... By which rationale or logic you do...You claim to be a logical man---you answer my question.... And remember ,I'll back up every phrase I said with verses from the Koran even if u have an iota of a doubt... ""My questions are: Why some people have a need to hate? How can a man hate someone, he does not even know? What is the true nature of religious hatred and racism?"" -->Charity begins at HOME!!!!
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kane    RE:Islamic warriors and innocent civilians?   2/3/2006 5:15:43 AM
:( i'm not a very educated person because i'm only 15(9th grade).i'm trying to learn something from this site and i am learning i'm officially a muslim but my belief in god and in other religions is weak. Saudi Arabia is a backward country like many others * 100,000 riyals if the victim is a Muslim man * 50,000 riyals if a Muslim woman * 50,000 riyals if a Christian man * 25,000 riyals if a Christian woman * 6,666 riyals if a Hindu man * 3,333 riyals if a Hindu woman. and this is crazy!!!! i'm very sad that i learned these but why don't we learn things like these in Turkey!! i mean why don't they teach us those psycho things(not in school nor at home) Atatürk removed caliphate and other religious things but he was also a muslim and as he said Islam is the best religion when you understand it.
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Pars    RE:Islamic warriors and innocent civilians?   2/3/2006 6:25:15 AM
1. There is no blood money in Islam. Blood money is an Middle-East tradition which is far older than Islam (which is also non-existant in Turkish culture). 2. Saudis are clearly doing discrimination. Doing it also against Turks. 3. In Quran, woman = man. In Arabian culture they are not. Many confuse these facts. I mean you are not the only one. 4. The Bible and other Holy books also distinquish between believer and non-believer. But this not an excuse for religious discrimination. After all none of the Holy books says do discrimination. On the contrary Quran says that a Muslim must be an example in his kindnes and tolerance. 5. I never said terrorists are uneducated people. Many terrorists are uneducated people. Not the ones who are leaders or the ones who have special missions like crushing a plane. 6. I have read several verses of Quran in Turkish and English translations. I do not know Arabic but know the meaning of many words (The ones that crossover to Turkish language). I must say I did not see a good English translation yet. 7. Jihad means struggle in Arabic. In Quran there is 2 Jihad. The greater Jihad is against a person's his own evil desires. The lesser Jihad is to help other co-believers. It need not to be a war. For example helping other Muslims against a natural disaster is also a Jihad. By its nature Jihad had to be defensive. A Jihad can only be called against a nation who is doing religious discrimination against Muslims or a Muslim nation being invaded by a non-Muslim one. One can not declare Jihad to invade another country. That is why Ottomans never declared Jihad against its Western neighbours. Ottomans did declare Jihad against Portugese in 16th century and against British during WW1. Because these countries have conquered Muslim countries. It is obvious that you do not know what Jihad is. 8. I know the life of Hz. Muhammed very well. Unlike most of the other religious leaders, he was also the political leader of a nation. I can remember only Hz. David and Hz. Suleyman of other religious leaders who were in the same position. Being political leader can force a man to do violent measures. The age was a violent one and he was much more tolerant then other leaders of his age. 9. I do not know if the Quran is a word of God. I believe it so. Believing is also not knowing. If you know, you do not have to believe. 10. I do not quate from Quran because I see believing as a personal thing. I am not asking anyone to share my belief. 11. I agree. I hate noone. Can you say the same?
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FJV    RE:Islamic warriors and innocent civilians?   2/3/2006 1:06:10 PM
These "Islamic" leaders don't give a damn about their own civilians. The Iranian mullahs regularly kill tens of thousands of them. So my guess would be that the mullahs also wouldn't give a damn if we killed tens of thousands of their civilians. Of course wheter these guys could be called "Islamic" depends on how you would define Islam. I think that Saladin would not give $%#@ for these guys calling themselves Islamic. Of course the majority of Muslims today seem more worried by flushed Korans and jokes than by the hundreds of thousands murdered in the name of their religion. Which makes them at the very least a tool of the Mullahs killing them.
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trustedsourceofinfo    RE:KAne   2/4/2006 1:08:48 AM
My advice to you!if you want a life for yourself stay as far as possible from Islamic beliefs and values... You can for the record remain a Muslim!
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trustedsourceofinfo    RE:Islamic warriors and innocent civilians?   2/4/2006 1:29:55 AM
"It is obvious that you do not know what Jihad is." --->The most despised term in the civilised world-Why the fukc would I want to know abt that! The Koran is definitely not the word of God.. The Koran is full of verses seeking vengenace and death!Whatever the circumstance be God would always preach forgiveness...forgiveness and forgiveness...The Koran is almost the opposite... Secondly,the messenger ,the Prophet was nuthing but a thug who terrorised and even killed a 120 year old man to achieve 'political' gains.... Does this make sense to you since you claim to be a logical and rational man... When you believe withour reasoning and logic you're NOT a logical man... And your statement 9 and 10 proved JUSt that!! As I said,its been fed since your toddler years that nuthin cud be better than Islam and the Koran... Its easy and for everyone to see! So the Saudis clearly discriminate against non they shud naturally expect people to discriminate against them...Yet,16/19 hijackers were Saudis... Now,find some rational and explanation for ths too... And take help from that other idiot kane who calls hiomself an atheist and yet keeps justifying acts of terror in subtle ways.... BTW,why are all these Muslims going crazy over a few cartoons of Mohammed..Whatever happened to tolerance..... Regarding "11"---intriguing question... The answer is I hate most Muslims...especially the Pakis and the Arabs.... and radical islam and this source of all terror-Islam/Koran... Its unambiguous and telling u the truth...No pretence unlike you pathetic muslims.... Your fukcing warriors of Islam assasianated a great professor who did no wrong besides the fact he was a Hindu..he imparted education to millions-Hindus and Muslims alike.... Innocent women and children out shopping for Diwali being killed by bombs for no fault of theirs..... Apparently they're Hindus! I hope you patheric bastards rot in hell!
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kane    RE:Islamic warriors and innocent civilians?   2/4/2006 5:24:49 AM
zuahhaahhha ok forget about me!!! you become a psychopat and a great anti-muslim say what you want you can't change the reality with your wrong information. yes i'm young and i know a little but you sound more childish than me there is no way to convince you so thats it
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