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USN Believes The DF-21D Is Live
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December 28, 2010: The U.S. Navy believes that the long rumored Chinese anti-ship ballistic missile, the DF-21D, is operational. This despite the fact that, as far as anyone knows, or will admit, the complete system has not been tested. There are hints that there were some tests last Summer, and that all the components of the system are present and working. There are photos of DF-21Ds on TELs (transporter erector launcher vehicles), and announcements of new units recently activated for the 2nd Artillery Missile Brigade, equipped with DF-21 missiles. Since all that took place a few months ago, Chinese officials have spoken about not being as concerned about American aircraft carriers. But the key event occurred last August.

Back then, China launched another "remote sensing" satellite, joining two others in a similar orbit. These three birds are moving in formation, at an altitude of 600 kilometers, across the Pacific. Equipped with either radar (SAR, or synthetic aperture radar) or digital cameras, these three birds can scan the ocean for ships, even though the Chinese say their purpose is purely scientific. A typical SAR can produce photo quality images at different resolutions. At medium resolution (3 meters) the radar covers an area 40x40 kilometers. Low resolution (20 meters) covers 100x100 kilometers. This three satellite Chinese posse looks suspiciously like a military ocean surveillance system. This is the missing link for the rumored Chinese ballistic missile system for attacking American aircraft carriers.

For nearly five years, there have been stories (in the West) about how China was working on targeting systems for its ballistic missiles, that would enable them to seek out and hit aircraft carriers. Such sensors would use infrared (heat seeking) technology for their final approach. This sort of thing had been discussed for decades, but China appeared (according to pundits and headline hungry media) to be putting together tactics, and missile systems, that could make this work. The key was having multiple sensor systems, either satellites, submarines or maritime patrol aircraft, that could find the general location of the carrier, before launching the ballistic missile (like a DF-21, with a range of 1,700 kilometers). Those sensors appear to be operational, as do the other elements needed to make the DF-21D work.

 

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heraldabc       12/28/2010 9:00:56 AM
There is a need for some cut ECM research funding to be restored, yet another reason for the idiot US Secretary of Defense to be sacked along with HIS boss.
 
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Toosh       12/28/2010 11:23:28 AM
The missle has about a zero percent chance of even coming close a maneuvering target going  20 to 30 knots. And I haven't even mentioned possible ECM. Maybe the Chinese should concentrate their efforts on just being about to product a reliable jet engine first.
 
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achilles    Deja' Vu??   12/28/2010 12:35:57 PM
I would think the USN would have counter-measures in place for this "new" Chinese threat: didn't the USN battle fleets have to deal with the threat of massed Soviet missile, cruise missile and bomber attack during the Cold War? Is this really a "new" threat or an adversary employing previously employed tactics??
 
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heraldabc       12/28/2010 12:44:28 PM

I would think the USN would have counter-measures in place for this "new" Chinese threat: didn't the USN battle fleets have to deal with the threat of massed Soviet missile, cruise missile and bomber attack during the Cold War? Is this really a "new" threat or an adversary employing previously employed tactics??

Top down versus sideways slant. SHEESH. Different kill chain to defeat. 
 
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kirby1       12/28/2010 12:56:10 PM
I'm with the previous commenter on this. The Space based part of the equation is new, but extreme high speed Anti ship weapons have been around for a long time. Brahmos is a famous one, but the Soviets have kept and employed super sonic and beyond cruise missiles for quite a long time.
 
I'm somewhat surprised the PRC is going with a land launched system vs an aircraft or submarine launched AGM-69 SRAM style rocket with a popup attack profile. I guess this shows somewhat that they doubt their ability to maintain air or sea superiority.
 
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FreeW       12/28/2010 1:19:19 PM
Toosh: 'The missile has about a zero percent chance of even coming close a maneuvering target going  20 to 30 knots. And I haven't even mentioned possible ECM. Maybe the Chinese should concentrate their efforts on just being about to product a reliable jet engine first.'
 
 
I completely agree. This is just another case of brochure-ware due to their helplessness to fix their main problem as it became so obvious in 1996. They can only hope to get lucky with a salvo. It's as good as winning the lottery, but hey, it's better than nothing.
 
 After all China is still a totalitarian dictatorship, and with well over 1 bln slaves, the leadership can afford something like that, regardless of its real life military effectiveness. Appearance is what still matters most to the comrades.
 
 
 
 
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neiyold       12/28/2010 1:27:34 PM
heraldabc       12/28/2010 12:44:28 PM
  Different kill chain to defeat. 

kirby1       12/28/2010 12:56:10 PM
 I guess this shows somewhat that they doubt their ability to maintain air or sea superiority.
 
Different Paradox as I see it.  Like Herald said, we kill cruise missiles/planes and subs differently than we take out satellites and TELs over the mainland.  I see this as Chinese redundancy in the A2/AD approach to their local and regional objectives.  The systems in place are almost all dedicated to providing layered denial (or is deterrence a better word here) to opposing forces within the region that the PRC and the nationalists view as their sovereign right to 'supervise'.  Mahan meets Manifest Destiny? 
 
 Utilizing the submarine based, the fast missile frigates (can think of the name right now), and the upcoming carrier forces providing a measure of threat, the PRC's are developing what appears to be a multi-dimensional systems approach to offsetting our overall stronger Navy and AirForce.  Each level of deterrence requires a unique or focused range of responses from us.  The little missile boats are produced in large quantities along with the submarine forces for a more conventional deterrence, while the DF-21D is currently unique and probably rather expensive to manage. 
 
My thoughts anyways.
 
 
 
  
 
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achilles       12/28/2010 1:37:49 PM
Very true BUT the Soviets did launch and deploys various satellites during the Cold War: Kosmos series were the most widely used for ELINT as well as ROSART ( radar surveillance ) and EORSAT ( electronic surveillance ) of the oceans. The USN had to deal with the same threat over thirty years ago.....and I'm sure counter measures were in place.
The advance in Chinese military technology in this area occurred very quickly; this indicates possible reverse engineering of some older Soviet technology is in play here.
Again, IMHO; Deja Vu.
 
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Shawnc       12/28/2010 1:42:43 PM

The missle has about a zero percent chance of even coming close a maneuvering target going  20 to 30 knots. And I haven't even mentioned possible ECM. Maybe the Chinese should concentrate their efforts on just being about to product a reliable jet engine first.

The USN has taken the threat of the DF-21D quite seriously, and in fact first briefed the US Congress on the potential of this missile system back in 2008, so I don't think they believe that it has a 'zero percent chance'.
 
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FreeW       12/28/2010 1:45:27 PM
Toosh: 'The missile has about a zero percent chance of even coming close a maneuvering target going  20 to 30 knots. And I haven't even mentioned possible ECM. Maybe the Chinese should concentrate their efforts on just being about to product a reliable jet engine first.'
 
 
I completely agree. This is just another case of brochure-ware due to their helplessness to fix their main problem as it became so obvious in 1996. They can only hope to get lucky with a salvo. It's as good as winning the lottery, but hey, it's better than nothing.
 
 After all China is still a totalitarian dictatorship, and with well over 1 bln slaves, the leadership can afford something like that, regardless of its real life military effectiveness. Appearance is what still matters most to the comrades.
 
 
 
 
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